Piper PA-23-250 N4708P
9 November 1983 · West Seneca, New York, United States · Fatal
Summary
On 9 November 1983 at about 13:30 local time, a Piper PA-23-250 registered N4708P was involved in an accident near West Seneca, New York, United States. One person was on board and one died. The aircraft was destroyed. No probable cause statement is available for this record.
The record
- Date
- at 13:30
- Classification
- Accident
- Location
- West Seneca, New York, United States
- Nearest airport
- Buffalo Airpark (9G0)
- Coordinates
- 42.8396, -78.7499
- Aircraft
- Piper PA-23-250
- Registration
- N4708P
- Category
- Airplane
- Engines
- 2
- Operator
- Not recorded
- Operating rule
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Purpose of flight
- Personal
- Phase of flight
- Not recorded
- Route
- Buffalo → West Seneca
- Aircraft damage
- Destroyed
- Weather
- VMC
- Light
- Day
- NTSB number
- NYC84FA024
People
1 person died.
| On board | Died | Serious | Minor | Uninjured |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Probable cause
The NTSB has not published a probable cause for this record. No probable cause statement is present in the source data.
Nothing about the cause is stated here that is not in the source record.
Read the full NTSB narrative
THE ACFT WAS BEING REPOSITIONED BY THE OWNER FROM A MAINTENANCE FACILITY AT BUFFALO INTL ARPT TO BUFFALO AIRPARK. MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL AT BOTH LOCATIONS WHO HAD DEALT WITH THE OWNER INDICATED HE HAD ATTEMPTED TO CUT COSTS BY PERFORMING UNAUTHORIZED REPAIRS HIMSELF. THESE REPAIRS WERE NOT COMPLETE PRIOR TO DEPARTING BUFFALO INTL. THE PLT OF N4708P ABORTED HIS FIRST TKOF STATING TO THE TWR '...I HAD A LITTLE MISS.' WITNESSES STATED THAT DURING THE SECOND TKOF THE ACFT CLIMBED TO ABT 50 FT THEN LOST ALT WITH THE NOSE PITCHING DOWN. THE RATE OF DESCENT WAS ARRESTED BEFORE GD CONTACT AND A SLOW 'MUSHY' CLIMB WAS INITIATED. THE ACFT NEVER EXCEEDED 300 FT ALT IN THE 5 MILE FLT TO BUFFALO AIRPARK. IT WAS OBSVD BY THE TWR SUPERVISOR TO OSCILLATE NOSE UP AND DOWN AFT EXTENDING THE LNDG GR FOLLOWED BY ROLLING TO THE RT AND SPINNING INTO THE GD APPROX 1 MILE E OF BUFFALO AIRPARK. INVESTIGATION REVEALED THE PLT HAD ACCUMULATED APPROX 50 HOURS TIME IN PA-23'S, 28 HOURS AS PIC AND 5 HOURS IN THE LAST 90 DAYS.
Quoted verbatim from the NTSB record.
Other Piper PA-23 accidents
| Date | Aircraft | Location | Operator | Outcome | Died |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 Jan 1983 | Piper PA-23-160 | Mangum, Oklahoma, United States | David W. Autrey | No injuries | - |
| 13 Nov 1983 | Piper PA-23-250 | Waco, Texas, United States | Gary Mack Roberts | Serious injuries | - |
| 25 Nov 1983 | Piper PA-23 | Comfort, Texas, United States | - | Fatal | 4 |
| 11 Feb 1983 | Piper PA-23-250 | San Juan | Collins M. Ketcham | Fatal | 1 |
| 6 Feb 1983 | Piper PA-23-250 | St. Joseph, Tennessee, United States | - | No injuries | - |
| 28 Dec 1983 | Piper PA-23-250 | Michigan City, Indiana, United States | - | No injuries | - |
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